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  • Sustaining Capitalism Podcast

    What are the biggest issues facing the American economy and how can they be solved? Join experts from the Committee for Economic Development for non-partisan, fact-based policy responses to pressing economic, educational, and social issues.  

17 Sep. 2020 | Comments (0)
Chris Wheat on COVID-19's impact on small businesses
The economic hit from COVID-19 has been widespread across many businesses and families but the hit to small businesses, and particularly minority-owned small businesses, has been unprecedented. Dr. Chris Wheat, Director of Business Research for the JPMorgan Chase Institute, joins to discuss COVID-19’s effects on small businesses to date, their outlook for the months ahead, and why it matters for the economy and our eventual path to recovery.

10 Sep. 2020 | Comments (0)
Leadership in Challenging Times: A Conversation with Gary Norcross, President & CEO FIS
In an interview with Lori Esposito Murray, president of the Committee of Economic Development of The Conference Board, Gary Norcross, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of FIS, shared how FIS is putting colleague safety first, transferring critical services to home offices, and leaning in on daily communication to share best practices with its global staff.

10 Sep. 2020 | Comments (0)
Leadership in Challenging Times: Lucinda "Cindy" Baier, President and CEO, Brookdale Senior Living
In an interview with Lori Esposito Murray, president of the Committee of Economic Development of The Conference Board, Lucinda "Cindy" Baier, President and Chief Executive Officer, Brookdale Senior Living Inc. shared how having a mission-driven organization has helped Brookdale navigate the pandemic.

10 Sep. 2020 | Comments (0)
Leadership in Challenging Times: A Conversation with Vicki Hollub, CEO of Occidental
In an interview with Lori Esposito Murray, president of the Committee of Economic Development of The Conference Board, Vicki Hollub, CEO of Occidental, shared how the pandemic brought on the most challenging period she's ever faced in leadership, and the steps Oxy took to manage liquidity and preserve the value of the company, while remaining thoughtful of managing their people and the impact the crisis has had on their lives.

10 Sep. 2020 | Comments (0)
Peggy Bailey on housing security, housing wealth, and COVID-19
Even prior to the pandemic, housing security was a critical challenge for many families. With the onset of COVID-19 and a rapid and widespread loss of employment and income, fears of a crisis loom. Peggy Bailey, Vice President for Housing Policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, joins to discuss housing hardship in a pandemic and the unique roles housing plays in families’ lives.

04 Sep. 2020 | Comments (0)
Kevin Kosar on absentee ballots, elections, and congressional capacity
As Americans prepare to vote this fall, COVID-19 is weighing on and shaping election preparations around the country. With the first absentee ballots reaching voters in September, the American Enterprise Institute’s Kevin Kosar joins to discuss safe and secure elections in the time of a pandemic and the case for expanded access to absentee ballots. Additionally, Kevin discusses trends in congressional capacity and its potential impact on the COVID-19 response.

27 Aug. 2020 | Comments (0)
Christen Linke Young and Matthew Fiedler on health insurance and the COVID-19 pandemic
A decade after the passage of the Affordable Care Act, the COVID-19 pandemic is testing the US health insurance system amid a public health and economic crisis. Christen Linke Young and Matthew Fielder, fellows with the USC-Brookings Schaeffer Initiative for Health Policy, join to discuss stresses, gaps, and successes in maintaining Americans’ consistent access to affordable, high-quality healthcare coverage, and how COVID-19 may inform the outlook for policy changes in the months ahead.

18 Aug. 2020 | Comments (0)
Ben Harris on older workers, retirement, and COVID-19
The public health and economic shocks of COVID-19 have disrupted and threatened the lives and livelihoods of a broad swath of people, but few groups have been as sharply impacted as older Americans. Ben Harris, Executive Director of the Kellogg School of Management's Public-Private Interface, joins to discuss the COVID-19 pandemic’s impact on older workers and retirees, and how it may affect retirement for years to come.

11 Aug. 2020 | Comments (0)
Joshua McCabe on rich states and poor states in the COVID-19 pandemic
COVID-19 has caused hardship and suffering throughout the US but some states and regions were likely better positioned to deal with the public health and economic crisis before it arrived. Dr. Joshua McCabe, Assistant Dean for Social Sciences at Endicott College and Senior Fellow at the Niskanen Center, joins to discuss how differences in state and local finances may be affecting responses to, and recovery from, the pandemic, and what the Federal government is doing about it.

07 Aug. 2020 | Comments (0)
Nora Gordon on COVID-19 and Schools
With COVID-19 continuing to pose a severe public health threat, the US is headed “back-to-school” under clouded circumstances likely to worry students, parents, and educators alike. As policymakers at all levels attempt to weigh evidence, assess risks, and plot the best path forward, Dr. Nora Gordon, Associate Professor at the Georgetown University McCourt School of Public Policy, joins to discuss school decision-making, budget pressures, and federal funding supports.

03 Aug. 2020 | Comments (0)
Vicki Shabo and Chantel Boyens on supporting work and care during the COVID-19 pandemic
The COVID-19 pandemic has disrupted schools, workplaces, and other daily arrangements that helped families balance employment with care responsibilities, casting a spotlight on the struggles of millions of Americans trying to make it all work. Vicki Shabo, from New America, and Chantel Boyens, from the Urban Institute, join to discuss the challenges facing caregivers, how it affects US efforts to “re-open,” and what steps government and businesses have taken, or may take in the future, to help

30 Jul. 2020 | Comments (0)
Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach on COVID-19 and Poverty
The COVID-19 pandemic—with its public health, social, and economic shocks—appeared destined to severely harm the most vulnerable Americans. In response, the US Congress enacted one of the largest assistance packages in its history. Northwestern Professor Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach, Director and Faculty Fellow at the Institute for Policy Research, joins to discuss what we know about how the COVID-19 crisis has affected low-income families to date and the outlook for US poverty ahead.

25 Jun. 2020 | Comments (0)
Michele Evermore on unemployment benefits in the COVID-19 pandemic
The economic shock from the COVID-19 pandemic has sent unemployment rates to levels not seen since the Great Depression. In response, Congress enacted—on a temporary basis—one of the largest expansions of unemployment benefits in US history. With the expiration of some of those changes approaching, Michele Evermore, Senior Policy Analyst at the National Election Law Project joins to discuss changes in unemployment benefits over time, the pandemic response, and the decisions policymakers face

10 Jun. 2020 | Comments (0)
Jessica Fulton on COVID-19’s impact on black communities
For black communities, the COVID-19 pandemic-induced whiplash into recession, almost exactly ten years after the peak of black unemployment in the wake of the Great Recession, poses a severe threat to the wellbeing of many families. Jessica Fulton, Vice President of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, joins to discuss the COVID-19 challenge for black communities and how it may it shape the future labor market outlook for vulnerable workers.

03 Jun. 2020 | Comments (0)
Meredith McGehee on COVID-19 and preparing for the 2020 election
The COVID-19 pandemic is disrupting many aspects of American life, and its future trajectory is hard to predict. With the 2020 general election rapidly approaching, policymakers and election officials will need to take action to ensure that American voters are not forced to choose between voting and protecting their health. Meredith McGehee, Executive Director of Issue One, joins to discuss the challenges COVID-19 could pose to safe and fair elections and how the US can prepare for them.

07 May. 2020 | Comments (0)
Claudia Sahm on evaluating the Federal response to the COVID-19 pandemic’s economic impacts
Faced with a public health and economic crisis unlike any in living memory, Congress has enacted trillions of dollars of relief while the Federal Reserve is carrying out unprecedented market interventions. Claudia Sahm, director of macroeconomic policy at the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, joins to discuss the Federal policy response to the COVID-19 pandemic to-date, what more may need to be done, and what lessons policymakers should take in the face of macroeconomic uncertainty.

29 Apr. 2020 | Comments (0)
Hana Schank on challenges in delivering public aid to address COVID-19
The public sector is scrambling to address the massive public health and economic crisis driven by the COVID-19 pandemic but new legislation designed to provide trillions of dollars in relief has met, at least initially, with several challenges that may be reducing the speed and effectiveness of intended aid. Hana Schank of New America joins to discuss why the rollout of relief has been a challenge, and the roots of the public sector’s struggle to deliver aid more effectively.

16 Apr. 2020 | Comments (0)
How Child Care Businesses Can Survive COVID-19—Considerations for Child Care Centers.
A panel of financing experts explores options that child care centers should consider in reviewing available new federal program supports in the CARES Act for both short-term economic viability, as well as for the recovery post-COVID-19. The podcast is a “must hear” for anyone operating a child care center who wants to better understand not only available assistance, but also ways to think through prioritizing business expenses and to support economic viability in the short- and long-term.

16 Apr. 2020 | Comments (0)
How Child Care Businesses Can Survive COVID-19—Considerations for Family Child Care Homes
A panel of financing experts explores options that family child care home providers should consider in reviewing available new federal program supports in the CARES Act for both short-term economic viability, as well as for the recovery post-COVID-19. The podcast is a “must hear” for family child care home providers who want to better understand not only available assistance, but also ways to think through prioritizing business expenses and to support economic viability.

13 Apr. 2020 | Comments (0)
US Health Care During and After the COVID-19 Contagion
COVID-19 is challenging US health care. Can the public health system plan better for the future? Can today’s lessons give us a more-rational health care system including for routine care and pandemics? Steve Messinger, President of ECG Management Consultants and a CED Trustee, discussed prospects for a COVID-19 vaccine and social distancing, and how the system can respond to future crises. Joseph Minarik, CED’s Director of Research, moderated.

06 Apr. 2020 | Comments (0)
Tracy Gordon on State and Local Government Finance in the COVID-19 Pandemic
State and local governments will be critical actors in the economic and public health response to the COVID-19 pandemic, but the acute crisis poses a potentially severe threat to state and local finances as the demand for services could spike just as revenues fall. Tracy Gordon, Senior Fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, joins to discuss the challenges COVID-19 poses for state and local budgets.

03 Apr. 2020 | Comments (0)
Leah Boustan on the history of US immigration, assimilation, and its economic impacts
Immigration has been critical to past US growth, widely benefiting most Americans and leading to a larger, wealthier, more dynamic nation overall but US immigration policy remains an underutilized tool for achieving our nation’s economic goals. Dr. Leah Boustan, Professor of Economics at Princeton University, joins to discuss her research on what we can learn from comparing US immigration past and present, and how those insights can inform today’s immigration policy debates.

26 Mar. 2020 | Comments (0)
Robert Kueppers and Nick Hart on the importance of the Census and what the COVID-19 pandemic means for our national count
A successful 2020 Census is critical for private and public decisionmakers in the decade ahead but will need to overcome unique challenges to reach an accurate count. Robert Kueppers, chair of CED’s Money In Politics Subcommittee, and Nick Hart, President of the Data Foundation, join to discuss why the Census is so important, what challenges it faces in light of the COVID-19 pandemic, and how employers can help to ensure a successful operation

15 Jan. 2020 | Comments (0)
Molly Kinder on worker perspectives and the future of work
Better accessing the talent and contributions of would-be workers in the face of uncertain technological disruption will be critical to US global competitiveness and increasing prosperity for American families. Molly Kinder, Brookings fellow and lead author of Worker Voices: Technology and the Future for Workers, joins to discuss the challenges workers face from emerging technology as they perceive them and how those views can help inform policy solutions.

08 Jan. 2020 | Comments (0)
Women and Work: The trends, barriers, and policies affecting women’s labor force participation
Better accessing the talent and contributions of women to the strength of the US workforce will be critical for US competitiveness and increasing prosperity for American families. Martha Gimbel, Manager of Economic Research at Schmidt Futures and former Research Director at’s Hiring Lab, joins to discuss the trends, barriers, and policies shaping women’s labor force participation in the US.

03 Jan. 2020 | Comments (0)
Strengthening the American Workforce: CED recommendations for increasing labor force participation and attachment
With workforce and population growth slowing, the US needs to make full use of its available talent to remain globally competitive. Workforce Subcommittee co-chair Paul Decker, President and CEO of Mathematica, discusses CED’s new policy brief, Growing the American Workforce: Bolstering Participation Is Critical for US Competitiveness and Economic Strength, and its insights and recommendations to help more Americans achieve prosperity and strengthen the US workforce.

18 Dec. 2019 | Comments (0)
How Quality Early Education Helps Shape the Future of Our Workforce
This year PNC celebrates the 15th anniversary of their Grow Up Great program, a bilingual initiative to help children from birth through age 5 prepare for success in school and in life. Since then more than 5 million children across the country have been supported through PNC’s local grants and educational programming.

09 Dec. 2019 | Comments (0)
Out of Work: Trends, causes, and potential solutions for labor force nonparticipation in the 21st century
Helping more Americans contribute to the strength of the US workforce will be critical to US competitiveness and increasing prosperity for American families. Jay Shambaugh, former Member of the White House Council of Economic Advisors and one of the authors of the recent Hamilton Project strategy paper Labor Force Nonparticipation: Trends, Causes, and Policy Solutions, joins to discuss the evolution of, and impediments to, labor force participation since the turn of the century.

15 Nov. 2019 | Comments (0)
Why High-Quality Early Childhood Learning Experiences Matter
In this episode, Elanna Yalow, Chief Academic Officer of KinderCare Education, spoke with Bernard Bailey, CED President, about the critical components of high-quality early learning experiences and how parents can be confident that they are selecting the most appropriate setting for their child and family.

28 Oct. 2019 | Comments (0)
Early Childhood Education is a National Security Issue
Mike Petters, President and CEO of Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII), discussed with CED President Bernard Bailey why early childhood education is vital to national security. Petters, who heads America’s largest shipbuilding company employing more than 40,000 people, started a scholarship fund by declining his annual salary (minus $1) that awards up to $3,000 to each qualified employee for preschool expenses. He also serves as a CED Trustee and Business Champion to Advance Early Childhood Educ

20 Sep. 2019 | Comments (0)
Strengthening the American Workforce: Women in Computing and Technology Careers
Despite its importance to US economic competitiveness, women continue to be an underrepresented force in technology. Lucy Sanders, CEO and Co-founder of the National Center for Women & Information Technology (NCWIT), and Paula Stern, Founder and President of The Stern Group, discuss NCWIT’s efforts to “revolutionize the face of technology” by increasing girls' and women's participation throughout the tech ecosystem, from education to industry.

13 Sep. 2019 | Comments (0)
Smart Regulation: Financial Services
Hollis Hart is President (Retired), International Franchise Management of Citi and co-author of the book Smart Regulation: Changing Speed Bumps into Guardrails. The book explains how sound bipartisan policy can yield both faster economic growth and greater security for consumers. In this episode, CED host Joseph Minarik, also a co-author of the book, talked with Hart about the role of regulation in the financial industry, and how smart regulation can produce economic benefits from Main Street to

13 Sep. 2019 | Comments (0)
What is Smart Regulation and How to Achieve it
Michael Archbold is Chief Executive Officer (Retired) of GNC Holdings, Inc. and co-author of the book Smart Regulation: Changing Speed Bumps into Guardrails. The book explains how sound bipartisan policy can yield both faster economic growth and greater security for consumers. In this episode, CED host Joseph Minarik, also a co-author of the book, talked with Archbold about what smart regulation is and how to achieve it through bipartisan policies.

11 Jul. 2019 | Comments (0)
Educating the Whole Child
This new series features the Committee for Economic Development’s (CED) Business Champions for the Advancement of Early Childhood Education, where we speak with business leaders about the importance of early education and how they can play an essential role in boosting access to and quality of education programs. This episode presents Bernard Bailey, President of CED, talking with Kai-leé Berke, CEO of Teaching Strategies, about the approach of educating the whole child.

10 May. 2019 | Comments (0)
How Should Policymakers Think About Technological Change?
With technology rapidly changing the landscape for modern economic competition, policymakers will need to continually assess how government will shape and be shaped by these changes. Matthew Shapiro, founder of MacroTessera and a Senior Advisor at Oxford Analytica, joins Devin O’Connor to share insights on this critical issue.

08 Feb. 2019 | Comments (0)
Where does the US government get its money?
Part 4 of CED's Debt 101 series sheds light on the government's revenue system. Caroline Ferguson sits down with Joe Minarik to answer the question, "Where does the US government get its money?"

25 Jan. 2019 | Comments (0)
The Business and Economic Implications of a Government Shutdown
The recent government shutdown was the longest in history. CED's Mike Petro, Joe Minarik, and Devin O'Connor sit down to discuss the various business and economic implications – both expected and unexpected.

02 Nov. 2018 | Comments (0)
Debt 101: How Healthcare Contributes
One of the largest contributors to our debt problem is the cost of health care. In fact, health care is the single greatest cost to the American government—even larger than defense—and it is only going to get more expensive with time. Most young adults (ages 18-30) believe the federal government should be responsible for ensuring Americans have health insurance. But that belief doesn’t necessarily take into account how our complex health care system affects the national debt. What is it, exactly

28 Sep. 2018 | Comments (0)
How Can Boards & C-Suites Increase Gender Diversity?
In 2017, CED launched the Advancing Women in Corporate Leadership initiative, which seeks to encourage corporations to increase female representation in leadership positions. As part of the effort, CED is conducting a series of podcasts that focus on the experiences of women in leadership roles and practical steps both women and companies can take to advance women in corporate leadership.

14 Sep. 2018 | Comments (0)
Does America Have an Immigration Problem?
Countless people seem polarized on the topic of immigration. Joe Minarik, Senior Vice President at the Committee for Economic Development, and Lance Jackson, Senior Historian at TrueChat, join Justin T. Weller to break down this divisive issue.